Matt Taibbi's wrong: Obama is still the same, dammit.


LSekhmet - Posted on 13 December 2009

Most of you have seen Matt Taibbi's Rolling Stone article by now (see it here: http://www.rollingstone.com/po... ).  But the first few paragraphs are what is endemic about the current mess, with this quote being one to which I take immediate exception:

What's taken place in the year since Obama won the presidency has turned out to be one of the most dramatic political about-faces in our history.

No. It's. Not.

 

Those who have been aware of me for the past two years know full well that I recognized Barack Obama right off as a Chicago machine-style politician. And while some of those can be effective leaders -- those out of any machine (such as Harry S Truman, from Kansas City's Pendergast machine) -- unfortunately the odds, shall we say, are against.

Taibbi's problem is simple -- he didn't recognize Obama's type of politician because he flat-out bought into the hype. As did much of the media.  They saw only what they wanted to see -- an intelligent guy, and because he was personable, and interesting, and charismatic, they wanted him to be more than he is.  

And because they looked at all politicians with a jaundiced eye, but they didn't see Obama this way, suddenly Obama was promoted as "the non-politician's politician" -- or the politician for the people who couldn't stand other politicians.  Because the media liked him, Obama couldn't be a politician like any other.  Even though he is.
 

As for me, I want substance. Passion. Style, yes, but not to the detriment of competence and intelligence.

I'm not a person who needs to believe the individual who holds the highest elective office in the land isn't a politician like any other -- which is why I wanted the best available, canniest, and most skilled politician available.  And I wanted someone I felt could best help the country right away -- and since I'm a Democrat, my choice was obvious. Hillary Clinton.

Now, as most Clinton Dems know -- I've made no secret of it -- I originally was hoping for John Edwards to emerge out of the pack in Iowa. (This was before Edwards' mistress scandal, which bothered me on two levels -- Edwards, like Tiger Woods in sports, packaged himself as a family man, and held his wife, Elizabeth, to be supremely important. Yet he had no trouble cheating on her? (This I found too egregious a personality flaw -- the hypocrisy, and unwillingness to see the hypocrisy. So maybe it's just as well, in retrospect, that Edwards got out in late January/early February '08.)

And I'd never really warmed to Mrs. Clinton -- though I admired her legislative record and felt her to be competent, intelligent and well-qualified for the position of POTUS -- before the media started attacking her, day after day, for odd stuff when they gave Obama a major pass day after day. (With a few exceptions. Lou Dobbs was fair to all. Dan Abrams, while he had his MSNBC show, was fair for the most part, and called out mistakes on all sides. Greta Van Susteran has a high sense of justice and liked Mrs. Clinton, but would call her out when she felt HRC had done something wrong. Those three were the best journalists on TV.)

However, I watched how she behaved. Nothing fazed her -- nothing. And that quality -- plus how she went to former enemies like Richard Mellon Scaife (who'd called her really nasty names and vilified her whenever possible for years) and made them into allies -- was the one I most wanted in my POTUS.

But the DNC, in its infinite non-wisdom, made that impossible with its ridiculous 5/31/08 rulings as to how the Florida and Michigan Democratic delegates would be apportioned. This handicapped Mrs. Clinton, yet she still won two of the last three primaries -- handily.

The DNC did not listen. They did not care what the will of the people -- those who voted in primaries -- was. Instead, they listened to caucus-goers -- some of whom were bullied and/or harassed -- see Gina Gaston's "We Will Not Be Silenced" for how the Obama campaign behaved (read: misbehaved) if you don't believe me; available on YouTube in four free installments. And allowed the will of the people -- the Democratic base -- to be stifled, while Obama's supposed broad base of support (read: media sycophancy coupled with the cult of personality thing Obama's media team was depending upon) was held up as a virtue.

I will never, ever forgive the DNC's actions. And I will never, ever forget.

This Hillary Clinton Democrat says no to Obama's campaign staff -- I might well like Obama personally, if I ever met him, but I do not like how they campaigned.  I do not support such thuggery in action, and never, ever will.

While I continue to hold out a slight bit of hope that Obama will be a competent one-term POTUS, the problems Taibbi described in such detail in his latest article are real, they are systemic, and they are growing.

That's why I continue to say: Hillary 2012.

(cross-posted at Alegre's Corner, which is why this might well look odd)

 

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. . . but I hope y'all like this one. ;)

There's no excuse for this, DNC.  You screwed the pooch; time to pay the piper.

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Thank you LK

Matt Taibbi's piece at first had me thinking, my god you woke up, but I also read some counter articles claiming his facts were bull.  I don't know, but I do know that many of us saw Obama for the con he is.  why didn't the press?

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NH, when the media bought into Obama's hype way back in Iowa -- when (as I know, from friends who live there still) the reason Obama "won" the caucus is because too many people came over the border(s) from Illinois (in particular), Wisconsin (to a minor degree) and North Omaha, Nebraska.  And the Iowa election officials were told _not_ to ID these folks -- or indeed, anyone at all -- and some of this was in the media accounts, as were people who said they'd come from California to caucus, or were from Wisconsin, or other states.  (In MSNBC's initial report of the Iowa Caucus, early January, '08.)   These were flagrant violations of the spirit of the law as well as the letter of the law -- but the DNC told the Iowa election folks to do nothing.

And as we know now, David Plouffe figures he (and the Obama campaign) "got over" because of their vaunted alliance with Bill Richardson; the Obama campaign told the Richardson voters to vote for Obama instead because Richardson was going to drop out soon anyway, so why waste a vote?  (Plouffe wasn't quite this transparent in his book, but that's what was going on.  And he does brag about their "gamesmanship."  I call it cheating and out-and-out fraud, myself, but then, I'm not a polite woman.)

What this means, if you look back on it, is that the DNC was pro-Obama from the start _and_ the media wasn't paying attention from the start.  This goes all the way back to January of '08.

And the kindest way to put it is how I did in this blog -- the media bought into Obama, hook, line and sinker, because he has a good personality, charm, some wit (though to my mind on the nasty and misogynistic side), and is intelligent.  And he wasn't Bush -- and then, when only HRC was left to debate Obama, Obama obviously was the "anybody but Hillary" voter's choice as well, along with some of the base of Republicans who knew they'd support McCain (or whoever won) in the fall _but_ wanted the weakest possible candidate to win the Democratic primaries/caucuses, solely because that would give the Republicans a better shot in 2012.  (Some of 'em do think that long-term.  Which we do also; it is not a vice -- merely, practicality, in this instance.)

And because the media bought heavily into Obama, they couldn't see his weaknesses and didn't even want to look for 'em -- which is why Obama was never properly vetted, and why any vetting that occurred anyway tended to have otherwise media-savvy people bringing up thinly-veiled charges of "racism" -- anyone who questioned Obama's readiness for the job was called "out of touch" at best and an out-and-out Klansman at worst.  And as you well know, NH, there are folks who aren't really good at expressing themselves (again, being kind) who maybe are ignorant in certain fashions who are going to vote for your candidate.  Obama had his -- remember the gal in Florida who was insistent that she'd never have to pay her mortgage again because Obama won the general election?  Yes? -- and we have ours, just as McCain had his and surely G. W. Bush had some as well.  It's just the way it is -- not everyone is equally intelligent or well-informed, and yet they gravitate toward your candidate.  The only difference for Mrs. Clinton was, her more ignorant followers were held up as her _only_ followers -- ignoring all the media-savvy folks online, all the people who knew her record or were actually converted to her cause (as was I) due to her obvious brilliance and competence -- while Obama's more ignorant followers were rarely put on television -- even Fox News didn't show too many of them until two weeks before the election, and by then, most of the folks watching Fox News had the picture anyway (as we read blogs, had seen YouTube videos of some of "The One's" speeches -- we knew what was going on as we could read between the lines) and the others just refused to see it no matter what.

So here we are -- we have an inexperienced POTUS at the helm when we most need competence; we have a speechifier rather than a leader; we have Nancy Pelosi having way, way, way too much power because Obama cannot check her as he seems incapable of understanding how she does her business (via manipulation, and power games, but genteelly and with great finesse), and Harry Reid being by turns ineffectual, weak and rather powerless (really, what other modern Senate Majority Leader was unable to marshal some sort of consensus before ever taking something as important as health care reform to the floor?).  And even at that, consider the nature of Obama's "pep talk" to the Senate Democrats -- what other sitting POTUS in modern history has ever given a "pep talk?"  (That it can be called one is endemic of the problem itself; inexperienced, somewhat immature -- yet intelligent -- man who doesn't know how to wield power effectively, and is getting the run-around by other high-ranking members of his party because they know he doesn't really know his stuff.)

That the media is starting to come around to viewing Obama as any other POTUS -- at least to the point of questioning why he does this, that and the other, even with the qualifiers Taibbi used (which amount to: "Really, I thought he was better than that!") -- is encouraging, but it's a baby step.

As for Taibbi's facts, some of them are right.  I don't know if he got more than 75% of it right, but he's right about Geithner and Bernanke and many of the folks working with them -- those folks worked under Bush, and their priorities didn't change just because Bush went out and Obama got in -- the only trick is, with Bush their policies were scrutnized heavily, while with Obama the media thought "the One" could do no wrong, and thus the policies of Obama's underlings (with the sole exception of Mrs. Clinton) couldn't do any wrong, either.

The media must stop abrogating their responsibilities.  That they refused to perform the duties of the "Fourth Estate" so long should be something the media finds acutely painful and shameful -- but they must learn from this experience.

Never again must any member of the media let his personal feelings (good or bad) bias him in his/her reportage . .  . never, ever again.

(And once again -- damn you, DNC!  We didn't have to be here!  And yes, this is _your_ fault.  The voters got it right.  You didn't.  Suck it up, admit it, and work toward replacing Obama in 2012 if you all want to have any power in Washington, DC.)

There's no excuse for this, DNC.  You screwed the pooch; time to pay the piper.

is probably the best writer in American opinion journalism. 

Here are those counter articles Hamp mentioned.  They're also worth a read:  

http://www.prospect.org/csnc/blogs/tapped_archive?month=12&year=2009&base_name=oh_matt_taibbi

http://salon.com/technology/how_the_world_works/index.html?story=/tech/htww/2009/12/11/matt_taibbi_barack_obama

Layla, I know from reading other comments here that your beliefs are different than mine, and I respect that.  (If we were all the same, the world would be a boring place.)

My problem with Taibbi isn't that he can't write -- he can.  And he's an effective speaker; witty, humorous, intelligent and passionate.  All good.

Nope.  My problem with him -- and with most of the major media -- is that their assumptions were faulty.  And they forgot their journalistic objectivity.

I'd be just as upset if the media had given Hillary a pass; in fact, had they treated her that way, even though I really admire her record, I'd probably not have voted for her nor still be hoping for her to get a chance in 2012 somehow (I think of HRC as the American version of Golda Meir at this point; Meir also served in the cabinet -- of Israel, granted -- and extremely well, before her ascendancy to the top job in Israel).

I think that no matter how much you like -- or dislike -- a POTUS, or any elected official at all, you should treat the politician(s) the same.  Which means if you're tough on Bush, you should be tough on Obama -- not because you dislike the man, but because his policies still deserve a great deal of scrutiny.

With health care in particular, that's a major step in this country.  When HRC and Bill Clinton tried to get something done in '93, it was heavily scrutinized -- and while it didn't get anywhere, the heavy scrutiny _helped_ because the ideas stayed out there.  And people were able to examine those ideas, along with their assumptions, along the way.

The media should be doing the same thing with health care.  Some of 'em now are.  But much of what passes for journalism these days are puff pieces about how this, that or the other person is getting screwed over by the current health care system.  And while that is undoubtedly correct (I have health problems and no insurance/no money, so I can guarantee the way health care is rationed in this country is a really huge problem), the bill still needs to be out there, understood, examined and synthesized.

Taibbi's quote that I gave in this article reads to me as a plaintive cry: "I really didn't expect this, Barack!  I thought you were better than this!  Why?"  And while that's true from his own perspective -- he _obviously_ didn't expect this -- that's not true for all of us.  We saw Barack Obama as a politician, period.  And saw some weaknesses with his strengths; the HRC voter didn't necessarily dislike Barack Obama, the man, but only that he hadn't been in Washington, DC, long enough to wield power effectively.

And we were right.

There's no excuse for this, DNC.  You screwed the pooch; time to pay the piper.

Thanks for bringing to my attention the Taibbi piece, and your thoughtful response to my comment.  I basically agree with everything you said in reply, with the exception of your last sentence.  Like you said, the world would be a boring place if we agreed on everything!

Thanks for posting.  I like your writing a lot.

I think it's much better to disagree civilly -- when we must disagree, that is -- than to get just combative and yell past each other.  I never have been happy with that -- it smacks of arrogance and immaturity, to my mind.

I am unsure how I would've felt if Obama's campaign staff had not been the way they were with regards to the caucuses.  Had they "played fair," and had Obama still won the same amount of delegates, I don't think I'd be as upset.

There's no excuse for this, DNC.  You screwed the pooch; time to pay the piper.

It's funny Obama ran on the "good judgment"  theme, but his voters didn't seem to have much good judgment when they just ignored stuff he was saying that didn't suit them!     Many of his voters wanted health care reform; all the while he was putting out "Harry and Louise" flyers.  They wanted an anti-war candidate; he was saying he'd do a surge in Afghanistan.  His anti-war folks also conveniently ignored Obama's statement that "Blackwater was getting a bad rap."  (Imagine if Bush had such a thing what their response would have been.)

His West Point speech opened up with a reference to 9/11 as rationale for Afghanistan War.  Who did that sound like?!  (Bush redux anyone?)  After Obama was first elected to the U.S. Senate, he put out a public statement that "he and GWB were pretty much on the same page now".  Did Matt T.  just miss that red flag -- or just ignore it?   (Maybe Obama ought to have put out that statement again after taking over the oval ofice!)

Obama said in his second book (the one about recent history in his life) that he knew that many people would see him as a blank page, or "blank slate."  And that this was a strength -- but also a weakness.  So he saw it, and knew what it was -- and as a canny politician, he went with spinning it as a strength.  And because he had a canny media relations team, he was able to use that, along with his native intelligence, charm, etc., to go out on the campaign trail and make himself into the phenomenon he was.

This is why things he said -- the stuff you pointed out -- were ignored by many Obama voters.

I also think that Obama's support is "a mile wide but an inch deep" in many respects; those who bought into the "rock star" phenomenon in particular have lost interest and are probably reading the reality TV blogs.  (With all due respect to reality TV.)

Now, there are folks out there who sincerely believed that Obama was better; my uncle is among them, and one of my best friends.  They looked at what Obama did overall and felt he'd be a skilled mediator.  And they believe the problem isn't with Obama -- it's with the folks around him, or maybe the Senate themselves, or maybe they really don't care for Nancy Pelosi.

Folks like that aren't the problem, either -- they believed differently from the HRC voter, but they had similar assumptions about what it takes to be a POTUS.  That they chose Obama over HRC doesn't necessarily mean they wouldn't have voted for HRC in a general election.  (My friend has said over and over to me in recent weeks that "the US simply isn't ready for a woman President yet."  Which is why, in his opinion, HRC is not POTUS.  My reply to that wasn't really understood by him -- I said if the media hadn't gone whole-hog for Obama, perhaps that wouldn't have been the case.)

I think some of that "rock star" phenomenon has waned now that Obama actually has the power and is trying to use it.

I also believe that Obama sincerely wants to change health care for the better, and figures that any bill is better than none at this point.

As for how we, the HRC voters, were treated -- well, I don't have polite words, so I won't use any.  Let's just say they were plain, flat wrong about who we are and why we do what we do -- the vast majority of us -- and that splitting the Democratic Party's base was a huge mistake, remains a huge mistake, and that most of the members of the DNC who agreed to that 5/31/08 "compromise" need immediate replacement.

There's no excuse for this, DNC.  You screwed the pooch; time to pay the piper.

got away with egregious double-speak.  So he could succesfully promote himself as an "anti-war" candidate to thousands hungry for such a leader -- all the while saying he would increase war in Afghanistan and go kill bin Ladin.  I guess peaceniks just looked the other way when he said the latter (or maybe just didn't believe he would actually do that).  When called on this, he clarified by saying he just didn't believe in "dumb wars" (i.e. Iraq), obviously leaving himself open for initiating "smart" wars.  (peaceniks just looked the other way)

The double-speak continues into his presidency with the Wall Street bail-out thing.  In his last  weekly address he strongly condemned wall street greed,  all the while his actual work has been to protect and "save" wall street by channeling huge entitlements to the big boys.  He voted for Bush's bailout while still in Senate, and then created his own bailout as president himself.  Yet he presents himself in his oratory as some kind of Teddy Roosevelt.

I called it "Orwellian double-speak" during primary season, and unfortunately a lot of that has continued.

The other problem I have with Obama lies in his nearly constant campaigning, or at least the style he has that he's still campaigning or out on the campaign trail.

I realize that campaigning for President is probably the highlight of his life (aside from his marriage, and the births of his daughters, that is).  But that doesn't mean he should keep on doing it!

And Obama isn't FDR, or Teddy Roosevelt, either, or any other President -- not even GWB, though there are some similarities so far in management style and some of the economic policies with regards to Wall Street (and the people who were appointed to oversee it, for tht matter).  He's himself.  And the sooner he figures that out, the better.  Because only then can he work on competence; I believe he really is trying to understand the issues, but he's isolated in the Beltway and is around a bunch of sycophants, like Jon "The Groper" Favreau.  (First year anniversary of that twerp's nonsense, btw.  Why he'd want to grope a life-size cutout of Mrs. Clinton's breast, plus put a beer up to her nostril, is beyond me.  And that _he_ has a job, while I sit out here -- and other wonderful writers sit out here -- unemployed or underemployed is obscene in and of itself; he doesn't need to compound it by his additional overtly obscene actions.)  Being around the sycophants cuts him off from the "pee-pul," and that's probably why he's growing more out of touch by the day.

There's no excuse for this, DNC.  You screwed the pooch; time to pay the piper.

 

was right about a couple things:  e.g. people were thrown under the proverbial bus  (Howard Dean et.al.).

my biggest gripe was the Clinton-hate subtext. 

and he does have to work on getting his facts straight.   he paints advisor Goolsbee as an economic progressive, but that was never my impression of him.     (although maybe he's a "neo-progressive" -- and who knows what that is -- maybe some kind of "neo libertarian"?!)

 

I do not understand why you refer to Barack Obama as "an intelligent guy".  We have no information on which to base an assessment like that because he has almost no political record and all other records are inaccessible.  He's cool and calculating but a far cry from intelligent. 

Otherwise I have no issue with what you wrote.  Your observations on the Iowa caucuses are painfully accurate, as I know from personal experience.  While our town is too small for outsiders to attend our caucuses (eveyone knowe everyone else), we didn't escape the Obama machine's attentions.  They sent an operative who had grown up here but moved away to direct the caucus, in complete violation of party regulations stating that non-residents could not participate. 

While I'm interested to see people like Taibbi and even Markos beginning to wake up, the damage they have done to the country I love makes it impossible for me to forgive them.

Creeper, the way the Obama folks had buses going over the border into Iowa from (mostly) Illinois, North Omaha (which is where the sole black Senator in Nebraska's unicameral lives), and Wisconsin, was wrong.  Flat out, unmistakably, wrong.

And yet the media chose not to discuss it.  While the DNC didn't have the Iowa election board check IDs, as they always used to have to do when _I_ voted when I lived in Iowa.  (I never attended a caucus, but I voted in Iowa.  Twice.  I always had to show my voter ID card and regular driver's license to vote.  If I had the DL but not the voter ID card, I could still vote but they had to check it over later against their records.)

I believe Obama is shrewd, canny, and an excellent speaker when he has a prepared speech.  But off the cuff remarks aren't his specialty; empathetic responses aren't his specialty, either; knowledge of specific issues seems hit or miss from what little I can tell coming out of the pre-packaged White House these days.

Yet folks who are angry with him now say he does study the issues.  And that he tries to work around the difficulties he sees -- and has some care for the folks on the ground (read: thee or me).

I think that's all true.  I think he means well.  I truly do.

But the path of good intentions often leads straight to Perdition -- and really, we, the Democratic base of the party, did not deserve to have an inexperienced person at the helm at this point.

Thanks for understanding my view; I'm very sorry that Iowa was overwhelmed by such a response in January '08 and that the Obama team from the get-go gamed the system.

There's no excuse for this, DNC.  You screwed the pooch; time to pay the piper.

I'm with you, Creeper; I question this notion that Obama is so "intelligent."  Yes, I suppose he isn't as dumb as a turkey, but he isn't all that intelligent either. I'd say he's about average for an American president. We've had many far more intelligent presidents: John Quincy Adams and Jimmy Carter to mention two. Neither one of them was a particularly successful president.

There are many kinds of intelligence; there is emotional intelligence, political intelligence, social intelligence, musical intelligence ...  etc. ... etc..

Obama's intelligence is more akin to that of the sharpie (as in: a professional card player who cheats), the con man, the dishonest salesman, the sideshow barker who promises you that inside the tent is a man with the head of a baboon, the politician who sizes up the crowd and promises it whatever it wants to hear, the swindler.

The Bernie Madoffs and the Carlo Ponzis (of the Ponzi Scheme) of this world have the same sort of intelligence Obama has -- the ability to fool people into trusting them.

I guess the main difference between my viewpoint -- that Obama is a good man but inexperienced and somewhat ineffectual at this point -- and yours (that Obama is a con-man looking for a "mark") is that I believe most politicians get into the game to make a positive difference.  Some become jaded; some, corrupted.  Some just get out of touch, which is bad enough -- anyway, I believe Obama's more "out of touch" than either of the other two, and I think that perhaps he can grow and learn in the office of President.

For our sake, he needs to do so -- and fast -- so we have to _hope_ he's intelligent.  But I truly believe that he _is_ intelligent -- though I agree with you about different types of intelligence.  Maybe political intelligence differs from other types of intelligence -- though I believe HRC has both.  (Actually, I think she's a polymath -- but that's for another day.)

There's no excuse for this, DNC.  You screwed the pooch; time to pay the piper.

I'm glad that someone as read as much as Taibbi is, is finally writing about the Wall St-Obama ties; they seem to be even closer and more pernicious than those with Bush.

But the opening cover he throws out for himself and many of Obama's fans is deeply problematic.  It's the latest version of history rewriting (which a real journalist should not be party to) under the "Who could have predicted?!?!?!!? rubric"

Taibbi's version of the fairy tale, the trouble began when Obama dumped his "progressive" economists (although even that's a bit questionable) right after he won for the Rubin gang with all their nefarious ties to Wall St.  Taibbi would have us believe the Rubin sprang into the administration from nowhere; but the obvious question is how could this folks have jumped into the fray so instantaneously without Obama's approval and cooperation long before the election?

Obama was well-funded by all the big investment houses from the very beginnings of his campaign; the creepy financial incestuousness goes way back.  Any real journalist wouldn't have stopped tracing back the connections just at the one point that allowed him to maintain his own personal fairy tale and salve the consiences of millions of others for abandoning principle and integrity by getting caught up in the mass marketing/street wilding/delegate stealing phenomenon.

Because when it comes to "Who could have predicted?", the answer is, 18 million of us, that's who.

is how it is rhetorically slanted toward diverting  blame or anger toward Clinton by linking repeatedly Clinton and Rubin throughout the article.  It's as if Clinton is to blame for Obama's appointment of Rubin in the current administration.  This strategy -- to blame Clinton first --  is intended to provide a foil for Obama and thus keep him from  bearing any responsibilty for his policies, etc.  In fact, most Bot reporters employ this strategy too. 

 

The right wing tries to do this too -- somehow trace the roots of financial collapse to Clinton years.  Nevermind that Clinton actually  balanced the budget and left a huge surplus in his wake.

 

Bill Clinton, for all his private moral failings, was a very good President.  And HRC would've been an even better one -- or will be one, if she only gets the chance to run again and not be hampered by the DNC.

There's no excuse for this, DNC.  You screwed the pooch; time to pay the piper.

Why Taibbi wants to throw that sort of subtext in there is beyond me; he's too good a writer to be doing it accidentally.

Maybe it's this year's version of Clinton Derangement Syndrome?

There's no excuse for this, DNC.  You screwed the pooch; time to pay the piper.

I can't possibly add to your points, except to say, "Amen!"

There's no excuse for this, DNC.  You screwed the pooch; time to pay the piper.

http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2009/12/11/fernholz-vs-taibbi/

Tim Fernholz’s intemperate attack on Matt Taibbi and his latest article is getting a lot of attention in the Twittersphere. It turns out that a lot of journalists don’t like Taibbi, and love it when he gets taken down a peg.

But Fernholz’s attack is weaker than it looks at first glance; a lot of it is simply a matter of slant and opinion. For instance:

I don't think I'd have found it, else . . . and it's interesting.

There's no excuse for this, DNC.  You screwed the pooch; time to pay the piper.