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Where is the moral leadership?

Many know that I get royally pissed when people say we should abandon Afghanistan. The ones who don't give a rats ass about the women and girls who have had a taste of freedom because of us. My country used to stand for good. We used to place morality ahead of economic success, people ahead of disgusting regimes.
But no longer it seems. Mr. Obama and his lackeys would rather be known as pragmatists. Something I used to call myself but threw out when the real pragmatist had the election stolen by the con man.
James P. Rubin writes about this in Newsweek and he hit the nail on the head. Why I ask do we, in response to the lows of the Bush years, why do we have to go 100% the opposite way and pull back into our little cocoon on America? Rubin says it better.
The Principle of the Thing
How America's commitment to democratic values is waning in the age of Obama.
Although President Obama's address to the nation served its main purpose—articulating the national-security rationale for the use of force in Afghanistan—there was one unfortunate disconnect. Obama did not link his powerful rhetoric about America as a unique global power that believes "right makes might" to his argument for the surge in troops. The moral imperative for defeating the Taliban and its heinous ideology went unmentioned.
America has both an indispensable role in protecting the world from Al Qaeda and a noble purpose that should be stated aloud: to defeat the Islamist extremists whose barbarism has done such damage to innocent Afghans and Pakistanis alike. Preventing the return to power of a Taliban regime that terrorized its own people and allowed Osama bin Laden to orchestrate the 9/11 attacks on America is a mission of which our troops and our country can be proud.
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Unfortunately, in a number of judgment calls this past year, the principle of democratic values has fallen victim to this bitter legacy. Whether it was avoiding an Oval Office visit by the Dalai Lama, not demanding an opportunity to promote human rights during the president's recent visit to China, or not pressing for the release of jailed dissidents there, a practical decision was made that U.S. concerns about the economy, global warming, and nonproliferation took precedence in the relationship with China. In the case of Burma, there was a possibility that dialogue with the repressive junta might succeed where the previous policy of isolation had failed. And since the Bush Middle East democracy initiative was in tatters, why not shore up relations with moderate Arab states like Egypt, regardless of crackdowns on opposition activists? Sudan, of all places, has seen a similar calculation. Since most of the mass murder has already been committed in Darfur, why not be practical and work with Khartoum? The government there does have the ability (but does it have the will?) to improve the situation, never mind that its president has been indicted for war crimes by the International Criminal Court.
Most wrenching of all has been the Obama administration's response to the opposition movement in Iran. There are legitimate reasons to avoid being seen as interfering in the internal affairs of the Islamic Republic. Why risk complicating the already complicated nuclear negotiations, whose outcome is so crucial to security in the Persian Gulf? After having labeled Iran part of an Axis of Evil and pushed for regime change there, it isn't easy for the United States to pursue diplomacy while simultaneously standing on the side of democracy activists massing in the streets. But simply saying that the world is bearing witness to the tragedy there—even while reformers and opposition supporters risk their lives in the streets and the prisons of Iran's capital—is not enough.
The point is not that the new administration has made a practical calculation in some of these tough calls. The problem is that it's done so in all of them. There was a time when presidents gained political strength from upholding democratic values. But it's now seen as smart politics to be a "realist." And that is the real tragedy. In this way, some Democrats are allowing the failures of George W. Bush to tarnish what used to be one of the party's foreign-policy strengths.
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There is every reason to consider the war in Afghanistan a larger calling, beyond the narrow mission of preventing Al Qaeda from having access to training bases. Indeed, the moral component could be dramatized to secure needed support from key NATO allies, like Germany, which are particularly susceptible to such appeals. Such an appeal to principle does not mean a longer, more difficult war. On the contrary, many soldiers on the ground know they are agents of progress, fending off a return to Taliban terror. And, yes, some are proud to escort young girls to school. That isn't unlimited nation building. It is a way to share freedom's blessings, and part of a mission of which Americans can be proud.
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in Afghanistan.
Of course I think we have moral obligations there, esp. to women and girls to relieve the severe oppression. We have both a general moral obligation as a country that supposedly stands for democracy and freedom. We also have a specific moral obligation to remedy the ills that were much of our own making, going back to Carter at least.
But will the continuation and now escalation of war in Afghanistan (and coming soon, Pakistan perhaps) accomplish the goals of relieving oppression? That's where I get stuck. I remember during her nomination hearings, Clinton talked about how we need to expand on the work that had already been done (under Bush, no less!) in using economic development incentives to improve the lot of females in several countries by making funds contingent on certain actions, like opening up schools to girls. (and btw, talk about 'bipartisanship'). But I haven't heard any sort of commitments or goals on that score wrt Afghanistan.
As long as our goals in Afghanistan remain vague, or, if they have any definition at all, seem to be about 'winning' the war, I don't have much hope that we will in reality leave things better than when we found them. The U.S. has a fairly poor record of followup on post-war support, at least in the last 50 years or so.
I would argue in fact that at this point improving the lot of any Afghani citizens is a lost cause, at least in terms of the likely U.S. actions in the area except for Clinton's commitment to the welfare of women and girls and families worldwide. And as fabulous as I think she is, I'm not sure of the extent of her influence in this area when it comes to policies that Obama has directly interjected himself into.
Aside from all that, I have a knee-jerk negative reaction to when most people start talking about how we need to stay in Afghanistan on behalf of women, since coming out of many people's mouths (not yours!) it's nothing more than a convenient political football. The only time I ever heard anyone in the Bush administration express the least bit of concern about women's rights was when drumming up support for war.
madamab had an excellent call-out on some feminist groups on this point.
As long as our goals in Afghanistan remain vague, or, if they have any definition at all, seem to be about 'winning' the war, I don't have much hope that we will in reality leave things better than when we found them.
Good points. It worries me that BO will wish to remain "vague", so as not to get pinned politically and having to stake out a principled policy, that is well defined. Progress will suffer for it.
why you are blaming Obama for Afghan fatigue, when he has just committed an extra 30,000 troops to Afghanistan despite serious heat from not only his Left flank, but also many people in the Center and even the Right.
FYI, I support the escalation.
Obama has made it about war pure and simple. back to getting osama and getting out. we should be there long term and yes, build a new nation
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and I hear you. But Obama is giving the very best deal the American public is possibly going to accept with regards to Afghanistan. Bush destroyed so much of our chance there long ago...hopefully we can eke out enough of a fighting chance.
Momentary lapse in concentration. Promise honored.
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I believe it is in not so much as building a new nation as it transforming the drug trade at the local level to find self sustaining industries for the people of Afghanistan. I do not see the USA building anything that a "typical" American would understand.
I do not how one would change Islam to respect women, as it exists in the majority of Muslim countries. The USA has a difficult time with this as well. So in that sense it is not religous but cultural. I do think that leaving is not a solution, ie Wilsons comment of "the end game"...we have done this in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Happy Holidays, to you and yours. May the new year bring new ideas from the white rabbit.
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nuff said.
...getting bin Laden and improving the lot of Afghani women, mutually exclusive? Why can we not do both?
The problem I see is the one that's coming to pass in Iraq now. As we wind down our presence there, the internecine warfare ramps up. How do we avoid that in Afghanistan?
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Mark Penn, who worked as Hillary Clinton's pollster during her 2008 run for president, reportedly received $5.97 million from $787 billion stimulus package so he could preserve three jobs at his PR firm.
www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/12/09/report-firms-owned-clinton-pollster-received-m-stimulus-money/
Not for two seconds do I think there isn't more to this story. But, geez...this doesn't look good.
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DC is full of them, but not our Ron.
Hey, I'm even trying to get some stim money for some legit training we can offer to the out of work.
What's with cousins the poisoned ZuZu pets?
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On April 4, 2008 the Wall Street Journal reported that Penn had "met with Colombia's ambassador to the U.S. on Monday to discuss a bilateral free-trade agreement, a pact the presidential candidate (Clinton) opposes." Burson-Marsteller "has a contract with the South American nation to promote congressional approval of the trade deal." A spokeswoman for the Colombian embassy in Washington, Sandra Ocampo Kohn, stated that Burson-Marsteller, along with the Glover Park Group and Johnson, Madigan Peck, Boland & Stewart, had been contracted in 2007 to lobby for Colombia on behalf of a bi-lateral trade deal.[11]