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Open Thread: Diversion?


Sharyn - Posted on 10 November 2009

 

With all that's going on now:  Fort Hood, Unemployment, Health Care Reform, and Wall Street Shennanigans, take a look at Huff Post's front page headline.

They're playing the freaking race card again! -- putting Glen Beck's comments from last July front and center (because a right-wing guy recently said he agreed with Beck).  Aren't there more important things worthy of headline status? Honestly.  (and I thought I'd seen some improvement at Huff recently -- maybe they figured they took a couple steps forward, so they're due for a step back?)

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I think Beck is the second greatest con job of the last five years, but that aside I too am really sick of the race card.  But I fear we have to live with it for the next 3 years.

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it's off the front page, replaced with something on banks -- the murdoch/beck thing relegated to back pages

 

to be primarily a hate site. 

is one of the most powerful men in the world, with a media empire rivaling just about everyone, and a propaganda outlet that dedicates the entirety of its programming (with the occasional exception of Shep Smith) towards destroying Democrats.  When a man like that calls the president a racist, it's newsworthy.  And if anyone is "playing the freaking race card again", it is Beck and Murdoch.

…Obama didn't belong to a racist church for 20 years and didn't make racist comments in his 2 books. 

…Obama didn't belong to a racist church for 20 years and didn't make racist comments in his 2 books. 

Jeremiah Wright is an odious figure who has said odious things.  That doesn't make the entire church racist, Ron.  As for Obama's books, which "comments" did you find "racist" in them?

that published racist comments in its bulletins. Oprah used to belong to that church but left it after discovering how bad it was. Why didn't Obama?

As for Obama and his books, he disowned his own white mother and was estranged from his white grandparents. He had plenty of racist comments in his books.

As for Obama and his books, he disowned his own white mother and was estranged from his white grandparents.

At no point in his books do either of those things happen the way you are implying.  If by "disowned" and "estranged" you mean that as he grew older, he became more independent of his guardians, yes.  This is something that human beings do.  Dreams From My Father is about a child born to an interracial couple, raised in an all-white family, who can only truly learn to understand his mixed identity and abandonment by his father by confronting the racial contradictions inherent in his upbringing, and in the world around him.  It is a classic bildungsroman form, with the exception that it is autobiography instead of novel.  It is in no way a "racist" story, any more than any discussion of the African-American experience in a white-majority country is inherently "racist".  Are "Invisible Man" and "Native Son" "racist" books?  What about "The Color Purple"?

He had plenty of racist comments in his books.

Where?  Which comments?  You can't just toss a charge like that out there without specific examples.

Can I ask why we're replaying the primary here?  There are 10 million threads on this at dKos where they don't delete.

Primary 2008

Obama Lied

Hillary got fucked

It's over.  It's been over for a year and a half.  it's over.

sorry

 

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We got diverted?  But I digress..........

 

and it diverted

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Is there a special spool for diverted threads somewhere in the cosmos?  Maybe life is just one big diversion spool?

 so thanks, Sharyn. Smiling

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Damn bots and their newspeak.

 

I agree with the goals of affirmative action:   non-discrimination, and equal opportunity --  but ironically affirmative action carried to an extreme negates equal opportunity.

Murdoch did say that Beck was wrong to say what he did about the president. (even though Murdoch didn't disagree w/ Beck)

Was the referred-to incident racist?

to recap:  it was Gates who called the police officer racist, and Obama merely said the police officer "acted stupidly"

 

 

to recap:  it was Gates who called the police officer racist, and Obama merely said the police officer "acted stupidly"

Right, so how is Obama's reaction to that incident--what Beck was referring to--racist?  Obama specifically made a point of stepping around the racial angle and just calling the arrest what it was: STUPID.  White, black, red, yellow, green, purple, no one in America should get arrested in their own home for the crime of being impolite to a cop.

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 for HuffPo to do a number on Glenn Beck while he was recuperating in a hospital from an emergency appendectomy.

Beck will be back on the air this evening and millions of viewers will be watching.

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 Beck for kids - Ben Smith - POLITICO.com

 Glenn Beck's "The Christmas Sweater: A Picture Book" will debut at the top of the New York Times children's bestseller list tomorrow.

This, according to his publisher, "Makes Beck First Author in History to Have Books Debut at #1 On Four Different NYT Bestseller Lists."

 

Glenn Beck's "The Christmas Sweater: A Picture Book" will debut at the top of the New York Times children's bestseller list tomorrow.

Thanks Ron.  Seeing the words "Glenn Beck" and "children's bestseller" in the same sentence together made me puke in my own mouth just now.  Bravo.

Extra Strength with Maalox, antigas plus antacid Fast Tabs. I like the Wild Berry. Beck's The Christmas Sweater is a touching, beautifully illustrated children's book.

Beck can be hard to take sometimes, a little over-animated in clownish fashion, but he often brings up important issues overlooked by the media. He's despised by the far right and left but he has a huge audience. I started watching him on another network when he was very critical of Bush.

I read that first line as "Ben Smith is the kids version of Glenn Beck."

Glenn Beck is just one giant diversion, as are the "you're a racist" choruses that get played whenever New Democrats/"progressives"/whatever they call themselves need to distract people from their real policy goals or actions.

Much (although certainly not all) of the "progressive" blogosphere is pushing back on the health care bill bc of the horrible Stupak amendment the last couple days, so they need a diversion.  Esp. as a block of Democrats are now saying they won't vote for whatever comes out of reconciliation on health care if it still contains the amendment.  HuffPo has always obliged in that respect, so no surprise there.